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    Par défaut Retour à Montréal

    On entend souvent parler des ''head offices'' qui quittent Montréal pour d'autre villes. On entend aussi souvent parler des Montréalais qui quittent pour aller vivre ailleurs, et ce pour toutes sortes de raisons. D'ailleurs la diaspora montréalaise est assez importante et il serait intéressant que Montréal travaille à les inciter à revenir.

    Mais ce que j'aimerais discuter dans ce fil c'est le contraire. C'est à dire des montréalais qui ont décidé de revenir vivre à Montréal après plusieurs années à l'extérieur. Donc si vous avez des exemples, des articles qui en parlent ou des connaissances personnelles qui ont faites le trajet inversent alors faites nous en part, cela fera changement.

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    Terry DiMonte is coming home

    Four years in Calgary gave returning CHOM-FM morning man a new perspective on Montreal

    By BILL BROWNSTEIN, The Gazette January 7, 2012

    A little over four years ago, Terry DiMonte was conducting his goodbye tour of the city, taking in his favourite haunts and people. Over a cheeseburger and a plate of homefries at Cosmo's, and, soon after, a couple of martinis at Ziggy's, he reckoned that he had better get out of town before he exploded and his liver became the size of Alberta.

    After being a fixture on the Montreal radio dial for 24 years, mostly at CHOM, DiMonte took the agonizing decision to leave town to become the morningman at Calgary's Q107.

    He got an offer he couldn't refuse from Q107, an escalating five-year deal that would culminate with a salary in the mid-six-figure range that would make him one of the most highly paid and secure radio personalities in the country. He also got an offer he could refuse from then-CHOM management. Money notwithstanding, he also had his issues with the former management team.

    But times change. So do management teams. And, so for that matter, has DiMonte. Starting Monday, he will again be spinning discs and schmoozing as CHOM's new-old morningman.

    DiMonte returns to town almost 100 pounds lighter and with a slimmer liver. Evidently, there was less temptation on the eating and tippling fronts in Calgary. "I'm not the fat man that I was," he jokes. "But I've got to be careful. In my first 20 hours back here, I hit Joe Beef and Da Emma and had smoked meat and steamies and must have put on 10 pounds. But it's back to the eggwhites now."

    More importantly, DiMonte, who just turned 54 a few days ago, feels refreshed and rejuvenated.

    "Calgary was really good for me," he says. "It pushed a reset button for me. I was in a bad way at CHOM in my last year. I hated my program director (who is no longer there). He was making my life and everyone else's there miserable.

    "I was lucky Calgary called when it did. It gave me a new appreciation of where I come from. The fresh air there didn't hurt. I wasn't distracted. I got healthier and cleared my mind. But I never stopped missing Montreal."

    DiMonte is true-blue Montreal and remains one of the precious few anglo-Montreal media celebs, particularly in radio. He is also a voice that Montrealers, anglos and Francos, can put a mug to.

    He didn't go into hiding when his shift was done. He lived and hung out in the city. He became involved not just in the nightlife but in all aspects of the community as well. He was a spokesperson for everything from the Missing Children's Network to the West Island Palliative Care Centre. He is a - yes, bilingual - kid from Verdun who never forgot his roots.

    But DiMonte has a confession: "When I was in Calgary, I did cheer on the radio for the Flames. But the first thing I did when I moved there was get RDS on satellite - although at first the agent at the cable company had no idea what RDS was. I will always bleed bleu, blanc, rouge for my Habs."

    DiMonte left one year on the table at Q107 in returning to Montreal. A year that would have reportedly paid him around $500,000. "It was lucrative," he said, not denying or confirming that figure. "Nobody gets paid like that in Montreal radio on the English side."

    So one could assume he is taking a pay cut in coming here. "You could say that," he replies.

    DiMonte allows that one of the reasons Q107 lured him to Calgary was that it wasn't a ratings powerhouse. "Calgary is an unbelievably competitive radio market. With 23 stations, there are more stations per capita than anywhere in Canada, and moving up even half a share point is a big deal."

    In his last ratings period in the fall, DiMonte was informed that his morning show hit No. 1 in its target demographic, men from 25 to 54. "So, in my last week there, I made my first bonus. I helped them get from No. 7 or 8 to No. 1 in our target demo. That was hugely gratifying. I felt I was able to leave Calgary with my head held high."

    He credits the new CHOM management team, led by station boss Martin Spalding, for luring him back to Montreal. Spalding flew to Calgary a year ago to meet with DiMonte for dinner. DiMonte assumed he was there on company business.

    "After some small talk, Martin told me he had come to Calgary just to have dinner with me. I told him it was an awful long way just to come for a steak. He then told me that CHOM hadn't been the same since I left. That was the nicest professional compliment I ever had. I nearly burst into tears. Management rarely says those kinds of things."

    Particularly when negotiating contracts.

    "So that's how it all started. But what's funny is that Martin used to be my assistant decades back on a kid's TV show called Switchback."

    DiMonte will have a new cast of support characters at CHOM. Heather Backman, who was once with CHOM's sister station Virgin Radio 96, will serve as a cohost beginning Jan. 16. (Chantal Desjardins, the most recent morning-show co-host, joins Aaron Rand on sister station CJAD as of Monday.) Maureen Holloway, a one-time DiMonte radio crony, will be popping in to dish showbiz dirt. Hockey blogger Eric Engels will follow the fortunes of the Habs. And from the CJAD newsroom, Trudie Mason will keep listeners informed with the latest headlines.

    But DiMonte won't have his good friend and longtime sidekick Ted Bird, chirping sardonically about sports and current events. Bird, now co-host of the K103 Kahnawake morning show, had a rather acrimonious split from CHOM after DiMonte left.

    "Ted likes to recount that when he left CHOM, he didn't just burn bridges - he used a flame-thrower," DiMonte relays. "I've never had more fun in radio than in having him sit across from me. But Ted is really happy where he is now."

    Bird doesn't deny this current state of radio bliss: "I'm having as much fun now as I've had since working with Terry. It's what Terry and I used to do. And it's genuine. I'm glad for Terry that he's back in town. I'm glad for the town that he's back in town. And I'm glad CHOM recognizes that personality still counts for something."

    As for reuniting with his buddy, Bird doesn't rule out anything: "I'm very happy where I am. My phone has been quiet. I haven't been asked, but I remain open to any possibility."


    For his part, DiMonte doesn't anticipate any turbulence upon his return. "I will respect the people who run the radio station and do what I'm asked. But the one thing I won't do is argue radio philosophy," he comments in reference to dealings with former CHOM management.

    "I've had success doing what I do on air. I am who I am. I'm older now. I have confidence in my ability to deliver and compete. I will get involved with the community again."

    Nor does he fear his age is a factor at a rock station. In this age, some view his 54 as the new 34.

    "My mentor, the late/great George Balcan stayed contemporary through his 60s," DiMonte says. "You couldn't say something au courant to him that he didn't already know about. It's a state of mind. I'll always be curious.

    "The only thing about being 54 is that I can't do two nights in a row at Ziggy's. But I can stay current."

    On many levels, little has changed in Montreal since DiMonte bolted four years ago, and that suits him fine.

    "After working here for all these years, I was fed up with the crumbling infrastructure, high taxes and the constant pissing and moaning that always goes on here. Then I get on a plane and go: 'Thank God, that's behind me.'

    "But then the next thing you know is that you get to a place where nothing is really going on. The economy is booming and people are talking about oil and gas and everyone is excited when the Stampede comes to town. Put it this way: one of the highlights of my stay in Calgary was at the Safeway and hearing from an aisle away: 'Je pense pas, tabernac!' I went running over to talk to that person."

    DiMonte abides by the theory that you can take the kid out of Montreal but not Montreal out of the kid.

    "There's a rhythm to the language and the city that you miss. When you're there all the time, you say: 'Oh Christ, here we go again.' As I was leaving Calgary, people were saying to me that I was going back to the land of $1.30 gas, high taxes, language and political issues. I responded: 'Yeah, but with all its warts, it's home.'

    "Montreal will always be home. It's really a small price to pay to be among your people. I consider myself a very lucky man to be back here. And to know there will never be a dull moment."


    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz1jyOfbRiO

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    Beaucoup de vérités dans cet article selon moi. Quand on vit à l'extérieur de Montréal mais qu'on y a grandit, on est tellement frappé par le charme et le caractère vibrant de la ville à notre retour, seulement pour être frappé en second lieu par le manque de confiance et le constant chiâlage des montréalais...
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    Voici un exemple intéressant d'une montréalaise qui a quitté Montréal pour la Californie (San Francisco) et qui après un mariage et deux enfants plus tard décide de revenir vivre ici avec toute sa famille.

    Family's love for the Montreal Canadiens prompts move from San Francisco to Montreal

    By DAN RYLAND, Special to The GazetteJanuary 30, 2012

    MONTREAL - How passionate are you about hockey and your Montreal Canadiens?

    Would your love of the game and – in particular – the Habs help influence you to move your family?

    How about from California to Montreal?

    Marjolaine Tremblay-Flaherty was born and raised in Pointe Claire, and like so many of her friends grew up celebrating many Stanley Cup parades.

    As a young woman, she ventured off from Montreal with her journeys eventually landing her in California, where she met and eventually married Michael Flaherty, an affable California native.

    One thing led to another and – two sons later – they were living the good life in San Francisco. Michael was part of several business ventures; Marjo, after her sons Matthew and Ryan were born, was busy orchestrating the to-and-from of school and activities. But, unbeknownst to her, something might have been missing.

    It started to surface in the spring of 2008 with NBC broadcasting the National Hockey League playoffs on weekends. Marjo hadn’t watched hockey in years, never having cable TV. While flipping channels one weekend, she caught a game and an old flame was rekindled.

    The first clue might have been neighbours wondering what all the yelling was about inside her family’s apartment.

    “Being San Francisco, Montreal games start at 4:30 (p.m.),” Mike recalled. “From outside on the street, I could hear her yelling inside the apartment.”

    Had Mike ever seen his wife behave like that before?

    Marjo joked: “Maybe our wedding night, but that’s about it!

    “No, really ... he said he never saw me like that,” she added. “Like the rest of Canada, I was going completely insane.”

    And the boys – then age 8 and 6 – quickly got caught up in the hysteria that is the hockey fan ... especially a homegrown Canadiens fan.

    “The boys loved it,” Michael recalled. “We got them some sticks and we used to move the furniture in the living room so we could play mini-hockey.

    ...Since 2003, most summers – as well as alternate Christmases – the Flahertys had been coming to Montreal to visit Marjo’s parents, who still reside in Pointe Claire. In 2009, while here for Christmas, Marjo found a Canadiens jersey and the NHL Centre Ice cable TV package under the tree.

    ...Now, more than ever, watching hockey games would be an event for the family. And, perhaps without realizing it, their emigration process had begun.

    During that same Christmas in Montreal there was a cold snap.

    “We got off the plane, wake up the next day and it’s like minus-20,” Marjo recalled. “The boys were asking: ‘Can we go play in the snow?’ I thought: ‘They’ll be back soon.’ About an hour and a half later, they were still outside playing.”

    As the boys got older, the Flahertys toyed with the idea of changing their lifestyle to something more conducive to family life.

    “We thought about moving north of San Francisco,” Mike said. “My brother lives up there, but we had also been coming to Montreal every summer. There was the quality of life, we wanted the boys to learn French, we wanted more of a suburban life. It was time for a change.”

    “And I missed my family,” Marjo added.

    Ironically, Mike’s family also had a Montreal connection. His great-grandfather emigrated to Montreal from Ireland 100 years ago, eventually ending up in Minnesota.

    “The boys thought Montreal was a great place,” Mike said. “They thought every day was the pool, swimming lessons and the parks.”

    By April 2010, the decision had been made. Two months later, the Flaherty family packed up, waved goodbye to San Francisco and headed to Montreal, crossing the Canadian border, appropriately enough, on July 1.

    “The boys were super-excited,” Marjo recalled. “We had been coming here for years. They didn’t think about schools. They thought about going to the pool every day and about soccer. They thought about playing hockey.”

    Added Mike: “When we got here, we registered them in school and in hockey. Summer was like other summers. We had the pool. The kids played soccer.”

    And to prepare for winter?

    “We enrolled them is a skating camp. They could barely skate,” Mike recalled with a laugh.

    ...There was no looking back.

    “When I started hockey, I was a little nervous,” Ryan said.

    “It’s better than the other sports,” he added. “You have a stick, shoot, pass, deke.”

    Now the Flahertys are a full-fledged hockey family. Matthew is playing this season at the peewee level and Ryan is in atom. Mike is an assistant coach on Ryan’s team and Marjo has the daunting task of team manager for both her boys’ teams.

    “I was convinced my boys would be soccer players and maybe surfers,” Marjo recalled of the days in San Francisco. “Now they’re total hockey nuts, and so are their parents.”

    Marjo, who got her U.S. citizenship just before leaving San Francisco, thinks the family will move back to the United States one day. But Mike, the native Californian, thinks not.

    “Pointe Claire is such a great community,” he said. “It seems like every kid around here plays sports.”

    ....Does the Flaherty family now have regrets about the move?

    “Yes,” Marjo said with a chuckle, “because the Sharks will probably make the playoffs and this means we’ll have to move back to sunny California and the kids will hate us.”
    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...#ixzz1l0rHNveJ

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    Ça en dit long sur la mentalité des Calgaryens: ils n'ont que les taxes et le prix de gaz en tête. Ils se foutent pas mal de savoir qu'il ne se passe rien dans leur ville et que c'est dull à mort. Payez donc un peu plus d'impôts, pis en échange you may get a life......

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    En passant, super idée Steve. Très bon! Merci!

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    Par défaut …parce qu’il fait bon y vivre.

    Bonjour à tous!
    Steve a trouvé, par hasard, un commentaire que j’avais laissé sur un forum d’Edmonton où je mentionnais mon retour à Montréal (depuis Austin) et il m’a proposé de venir faire un tour sur MTLurb pour parler des raisons de mon retour en ville natale. Ça m’a motivé à écrire un billet de blogue qui dévie un peu du sujet mais qui peut donner du contexte, si ça intéresse quelqu’un: Déjà 1 374 jours depuis mon retour à Montréal.

    J’ai toujours aimé ma ville et j’ai souvent éprouvé de la nostalgie en vivant ailleurs mais je dois dire que mon dernier retour à Montréal, en avril 2008, a été de loin le plus positif. Plein de raisons personnelles pour ça, dont certaines sont exposées sur mon blogue principal, mais aussi des raisons qui peuvent s’appliquer à bien d’autres personnes.
    En général, je dirais qu’il fait bon vivre à Montréal. En ce moment. C’est une belle période pour vivre ici. Au milieu des années 1990, c’était pas facile et le climat était pas mal morose, socialement. Mais je trouve qu’il y a quelque-chose d’intéressant qui se passe, à Montréal. Comme je suis chercheur et enseignant en science sociale, c’est le genre de chose qui m’intéresse.
    C’est pas que Montréal est soudainement le meilleur endroit où vivre, si un tel endroit existe. D’ailleurs, c’est pas pour tout le monde. Mais Montréal est dans un contexte assez particulier.
    On parle souvent du fait que le coût de la vie soit moins élevé qu’à plusieurs autres endroits, et ça compte pour beaucoup. C’est souvent mentionné par des amis qui viennent de l’extérieur. Les Montréalais de naissance ont tendance à se concentrer sur l’inflation perçue à différent niveau. Moi-même, je pense encore au 3 ½ de Petite-Patrie (métros Rosemont et Beaubien) que je louais pour 360$… en 2007! Mais même s’il est pour ainsi dire impossible de trouver une aussi bonne occasion ces jours-ci, ça doit pas nous empêcher de voir que les loyers dans d’autres villes nord-américaines sont vraiment beaucoup plus chers qu’à Montréal. Que ce soit à Moncton et Fredericton (NB), à Austin (TX), à Bloomington et South Bend (IN) ou à divers endroits au Massachusetts (Brockton, Cambridge, Northampton), j’ai pu voir une grosse différence sur le coût de la vie. En comparant, Montréal a l’air d’une véritable aubaine.
    Pour l’emploi, c’est une situation assez similaire. Les Montréalais peuvent se plaindre de leur situation (quoique, beaucoup moins qu’à d’autres époques), mais les choses sont souvent pires ailleurs.
    Bon, ça veut pas dire que Montréal est un El Dorado où devraient venir des chercheurs d’emploi. Quelqu’un qui vient s’établir à Montréal sans avoir d’emploi (ou de programme d’études) risque d’avoir une expérience assez difficile. Peut-être pas vraiment pire qu’ailleurs, mais certainement pas vraiment mieux non plus. Par contre, pour des gens qui ont soit un emploi ou au moins un réseau local assez fort, le niveau de panique est moins élevé qu’à bien d’autres endroits sur le continent ou ailleurs dans le monde, si je me fie à mes contacts à l’extérieur.
    Donc, revenir à Montréal avec une possibilité de travailler ou d’obtenir des contrats, c’est pas une très mauvaise proposition.

    Mais il y a bien plus, selon moi. Il y a des vrais changements sociaux qui s’opèrent. Je parle (surtout!) pas de politique ou du genre d’événement qui anime les journalistes (j’ai eu une conversation avec une journaliste du Gazou, aujourd’hui, et ça me reste en travers de la gorge). C’est pas non plus un phénomène de mode, Montréal passe par plusieurs des mêmes modes qu’ailleurs (comme j’enseigne à Concordia, je vois pas mal de hipsters et j’ai d’ailleurs une collègue à JMSB qui fait des recherches sur eux). Mais quand on pense à la vraie vie sociale montréalaise, il y a quelque-chose de remarquable. Pas seulement des trucs évidents comme l’importance du bilinguisme ou le type très particulier d’intégration qui caractérise le pluriculturalisme et le multiculturalisme de la région. Mais un modèle unique de communauté, à la fois «tissé serré» (ou «dense», au sens des réseaux sociaux) et «fluide». La «scène geek montréalaise», qui m’intéresse particulièrement (en fonction de mes recherches, entre autres) est constituée par un groupe que j’évaluerais à environ 500 personnes autours desquels gravitent beaucoup de monde. Le nœud du groupe est relativement uni, avec certains contacts assez forts. Mais ça reste un groupe en changement constant. Et très diversifié. Ayant eu l’occasion d’observer des geeks en-dehors de Montréal (à Boston et à Austin, par exemple), je dois dire que les geeks de Montréal sont passablement variés et, surtout, prêts à parler d’autre chose que d’argent (même si l’argent est parfois une grande préoccupation).
    Même si les geeks sont pas représentatifs du milieu montréalais en général, il y a quelque-chose d’intéressant qui se passe parmi eux.

    La scène musicale est un peu du même genre. D’ailleurs, pour avoir eu l’occasion de participer à la scène musicale africaine de Montréal, j’y ai vu quelque-chose de très particulier. Une petite communauté très soudée et qui collabore par-delà les frontières musicales. Mais, aussi, une réalité peu connue du reste de la ville.

    D’ailleurs, ça me fait beaucoup penser aux quartiers de Montréal, surtout que je suis passé par plusieurs coins, aujourd’hui. Évidemment, chaque ville a ses quartiers et ils peuvent être très distincts les uns des autres. Mais il y a quelque-chose d’assez particulier à Montréal au sujet des différences entre quartiers. C’est pas vraiment une question d’architecture et c’est pas seulement une question de communautés distinctes, mais passer d’un quartier à l’autre donne un fort effet de passer d’un univers à un autre. En-dehors de Montréal, j’ai rarement eu cette réaction. Une exception, c’est Wicker Park, à Chicago, où j’ai passé une seule soirée. Mais, tout de suite, j’ai eu cette impression de passer «à travers le miroir», dans un autre monde. Vraiment difficile à expliquer, mais c’est quelque-chose qui m’arrive très souvent, à Montréal, par exemple en passant de Saint-Michel à Outremont, de Saint-Laurent à Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, de Côte-des-Neiges au Vieux-Montréal, ou du Mile-End au Quartier Latin.
    Je sais, c’est bizarre comme explication. Et ça se peut que je sois biaisé pour avoir vécu une bonne partie de ma vie ici. Mais c’est quelque-chose que j’ai jamais vraiment retrouvé à Paris, Boston, Stockholm ou Toronto. Et c’est quelque-chose qui m’attire toujours, à Montréal.

    Enfin…

    Tout ça pour dire qu’il fait bon vivre à Montréal, ces temps-ci.

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    Citation Envoyé par steve_36 Voir le message
    Terry DiMonte is coming home

    Four years in Calgary gave returning CHOM-FM morning man a new perspective on Montreal

    By BILL BROWNSTEIN, The Gazette January 7, 2012


    "After working here for all these years, I was fed up with ... the constant pissing and moaning that always goes on here."
    Gee, I hadn't noticed lol!

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    Citation Envoyé par Enkerli Voir le message
    Bonjour à tous!
    Steve a trouvé, par hasard, un commentaire que j’avais laissé sur un forum d’Edmonton où je mentionnais mon retour à Montréal (depuis Austin) et il m’a proposé de venir faire un tour sur MTLurb pour parler des raisons de mon retour en ville natale. Ça m’a motivé à écrire un billet de blogue qui dévie un peu du sujet mais qui peut donner du contexte, si ça intéresse quelqu’un: Déjà 1 374 jours depuis mon retour à Montréal.
    Merci beaucoup Enkerli pour avoir partagé ton point de vue. Je le trouve très intéressant et, je dois dire, correspondant quand même un peu pas mal à ce que j'ai toujours senti moi-même.

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    En passant Enkerli, comment traduit-on "Geek" en français?
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