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Discussion: Le capital des NIMBYs est St-Lambert

  1. #81
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    LOL!

    God forbid there be a bar in Saint-Lambert. Capital of NIMBYs, no kidding!
    Such a lovely town but man are there ever a lot of annoying people there.

    Besides, Saint-Lambert already has a de-facto bar : La Bande Au Coin. They recently renovated and enlarged the actual bar/counter too. It's quite nice. Officially, they can't serve you alcohol unless you buy food, but if you're a regular (as i am) they just serve you drinks with no hassle. I've been going there for years and was only hit with the "food rule" once, and i went with a small bag of chips for 50 cents.

  2. #82
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    janvier 2007
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    Race cars leave St-Lambert residents with headaches

    Updated: Sun Aug. 29 2010 5:41:48 PM

    ctvmontreal.ca

    The roar of NASCAR engines may be music to the ears of racing fans, but it's yet another summer nuisance in noisy St-Lambert.

    The small South Shore suburb sits just across the St-Lawrence Seaway from Ile Notre-Dame, making the rumbling sounds of stock cars hurtling around the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve race track a little too close for comfort.

    Unfortunately for St-Lambert residents, the excessive noise is a sad reality of their summers because of all the events that take place at Parc Jean Drapeau.

    The list includes the Canadian Grand Prix Formula One race, a heavy metal music festival and the Osheaga music festival on consecutive weekends in July, the Piknik Electronique concert series every weekend, and finally this weekend's NASCAR Nationwide series race.

    St-Lambert Mayor Philippe Brunet says he, and his taxpayers, have had enough.

    "It's been just totally intolerable and unacceptable," Brunet told CTV Montreal's Maya Johnson on Sunday, as NASCAR engines roared in the background. "We're fairly tolerant in St. Lambert, but too much is too much. (Saturday), they started at 7:30 (in the morning), and at 7:00 (at night), there were still some cars driving around. So that's almost a 12-hour day."

    St-Lambert's administration has been in talks with both the management of Parc Jean Drapeau and the city of Montreal for years in an effort to find a solution to the problem, but the noise continues every summer.

    "They're (the city of Montreal) exporting their nuisance – the sound – to us," Brunet said. "It's only a few hundred yards away. The waterfront amplifies the sound, so it just reverberates very, very loudly within the whole community."

    For the residents it makes the warm months a virtual prison, forcing them indoors with the windows closed to escape the invasion of their ears.

    "We had decided to keep the windows open last night to sleep, and at 7:30 in the morning we were woken up by this noise," resident Karen Penney said Sunday. "I just sat bolt upright in bed. It was horrible."

    In addition to the city's actions, the residents have organized themselves to pressure the city of Montreal and Parc Jean Drapeau to reduce the number of noisy events in the summer.

    The citizens' group, St-Lambert is Silence, has also been pressuring its own city's administration to take legal action. Members of the group inundated the June 21 municipal council meeting, and earlier this month the Société du parc Jean-Drapeau Inc. was sent a letter of demand to "stop degrading the quality of the environment of the residents in the neighbourhood of Jean-Drapeau Park."

    The group's leader Daniel Gour posted this explanation on its website: "We are demonstrating our determination to get back what is rightfully ours, peace and tranquility in our own homes, which we had just a few years ago, before the beginning of all those day-long outdoor shows all summer long at excessive volume."

    Brunet says the message from his residents has been received loud and clear.

    "We'll have to contemplate taking serious legal action to refrain them from producing these shows," Brunet said. "There's no alternative."
    http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=MontrealHome (including video)

    I voted for Philippe Brunet because I thought he was the best possible candidate to run St-Lambert. He supports densifying St-Lambert's territory. His administration has also been completely re-doing many major streets (next year is Riverside, this year it is Victoria, last year was Desaulniers, the year before Logan, and the year before that was Tiffin and Green).

    However, I am a little angry over him on this. I reside in old St-Lambert, less than a kilometre away from the river. However, I don't ever recall being woken up by noise from Parc Jean-Drapeau. I don't ever recall being kept awake by noise either. During the middle of the day, I don't give much of a rat's ass either. I don't tend to spend my weekend afternoons hanging around in my backyard trying to enjoy tranquility (if you want complete silence at your home on a weekend afternoon move to the country!). As a matter of fact, there are many nice quiet spots to spend an afternoon not too far away if you don't mind a little drive.

    I don't get the idea of demanding complete silence at all times in the middle of a densely populated suburban area less than 5km from downtown Montreal. It just isn't going to happen. As a matter of fact, I am far more irritated by the usage of whipper-snippers and lawn-mowers at the wee hours of weekend mornings. I certainly can live with a little minor background noise for a few weekends a year for the good of Montreal's economy. I actually love the sound of the F1 cars at the beginning of summer, it reminds me that that summer has finally arrived! Suing Montreal to stop these events is beyond reason.

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    "Noisy events" have been taking place in Saint-Lambert for decades. The Grand Prix alone has been going on since 1978. I've been going to concerts and festivals for a decade now. Why now, suddenly, all this outrage? I can hear everything from neighboring Longueuil too, as i'm pretty close myself. I've never heard anybody around here complain.

    Ugh. I love Saint-Lambert but this is just ridiculous.

    BOO-FARKING-HOO.

    If you want complete silence, go live in a rural area. I just emailed these guys, i wonder if they'll respond:

    "Hello,

    If you are so distraught over noise, I recommend moving to the country. We are residents of a city, and as such, noise is a part of life. Events have been held at Parc Jean-Drapeau for decades... why suddenly now all this outrage? It is people like you who complain incessantly about everything that give residents such a bad name. No wonder Saint-Lambert is ridiculed as the NIMBY Capital of Québec.

    I have spent over 20 years of my life in and around Saint-Lambert and i am disgusted by this narcissistic NIMBYism.

    Regards"
    Dernière modification par Cataclaw ; 29/08/2010 à 19h00.

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    Comme l'a si bien dit le grand philosophe et dramaturge français Henry Monnier, en 1823: « On devrait construire les villes à la campagne, l’air y est tellement plus pur ! »

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    Citation Envoyé par Cataclaw Voir le message
    "Noisy events" have been taking place in Saint-Lambert for decades. The Grand Prix alone has been going on since 1978. I've been going to concerts and festivals for a decade now. Why now, suddenly, all this outrage? I can hear everything from neighboring Longueuil too, as i'm pretty close myself. I've never heard anybody around here complain.

    Ugh. I love Saint-Lambert but this is just ridiculous.
    Yeah but the problem is most of this music sucks If it was good music or the Grand Prix at least the noises are nice
    So live this day that you can look every damn man straight in the eye and tell him to go to hell.

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    Citation Envoyé par Cyrus Voir le message
    Yeah but the problem is most of this music sucks If it was good music or the Grand Prix at least the noises are nice
    Good thing music is a completely objective subject, otherwise one could think you just like to stir shit for the sake of it.

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