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    Oooh that is not good:

    INCHEON — South Korea warned North Korea on Tuesday of “enormous retaliation” if it took more aggressive steps after Pyongyang fired scores of artillery shells at a South Korean island in one of the heaviest attacks on its neighbor since the Korean War ended in 1953.

    The South fired back after Tuesday’s attack and sent fighter jets to the area, close to a disputed maritime border on the west of the divided Korean peninsula and the scene of deadly clashes between the two rivals in the past.

    South Korea was conducting military drills in the area at the time but said it had not been firing at the North. Pyongyang blamed Seoul for starting the fight, which killed two South Korean soldiers and wounded 17 others along with three civilians and razed scores of houses.


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    President Lee Myung Bak apparently declared, “Punish them several times over,” immediately after receiving word of North Korea’s attack on Yeonpyeong Island this afternoon.

    Blue House spokesperson Kim Hee Jung reported the President’s reaction, which he gave at the Blue House Center for National Crisis Management in a video meeting with the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Han Min Ku. President Lee apparently told Han, “Attack in cases where the other side shows any sign of a provocation; there is a missile base in the vicinity of the coastal cannon base.”
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    Senior Officer to the President for Public Relations Hong Sang Pyo released the President’s statement at 6:05 P.M., saying, “It is a clear armed provocation. Especially, an indiscriminate attack on civilians is completely unforgivable.”
    Due to North Korea’s 21-minute long attack on Yeonpyeong Island this afternoon, one marine has been killed, three seriously injured and a further ten slightly injured. Two island residents have been hurt.

    Meanwhile, an investigation into the scale of other damage is ongoing. Approximately 11 out of a total of 600 homes on the island were on fire as of 4:30 PM, but the fires are reportedly spreading. According to one resident interviewed by YTN over the phone, “It seems that all the houses are going to burn” because they are grouped together and efforts to extinguish those on fire have not been able to get underway. Additional fires are burning in wooded areas of the island.

    Residents have reportedly been evacuated from the settlement on the island into 20 shelters.

    South Korea’s armed forces have been put on emergency alert, while the region including the five islands in the West Sea has been put on Jindo-I, the highest alert used in times of war.



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    If they had decided to make their megalopolis somewhere reasonable in the south instead of in that sleepy little town it would be so much easier to have taken care of this problem decades ago...
    Dernière modification par Cyrus ; 23/11/2010 à 22h28.
    So live this day that you can look every damn man straight in the eye and tell him to go to hell.

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    Citation Envoyé par Cyrus Voir le message
    Oooh that is not good:
    Exactly what I thought when I read this news this morning....
    Au pays de Québec rien ne doit mourir et rien ne doit changer... (Louis HÉMON, Maria Chapdelaine)

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    Heureusement, la planète entière est contre l'idéologie de la Corée du nord, si la guerre reprend, celle-ci se terminera bien assez vite.
    MtlUrb self-proclaimed technical advisor

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    Citation Envoyé par OursNoir Voir le message
    Heureusement, la planète entière est contre l'idéologie de la Corée du nord, si la guerre reprend, celle-ci se terminera bien assez vite.
    I don't know China helped NK out significantly in the Korean War. I know I don't want a war against China!

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    Oh look, Kim is feeling ronrey again.

    China wants stability for the Korean peninsula. China wants to keep growing and an unstable Korean peninsula is a problem.

    If North Korea ever attacked and war broke out, even China would be against them. The reason is simple.. China + North Korea vs. Rest of the World is still an unfair fight, not to mention the entire West that buys China's products would stop doing so, severely hurting their economy.

    No. What everyone wants is stability. The only nutcase here is Kim Jong Il.

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    Citation Envoyé par OursNoir Voir le message
    Heureusement, la planète entière est contre l'idéologie de la Corée du nord, si la guerre reprend, celle-ci se terminera bien assez vite.
    C'est à espérer, mais la Chine n'aimera pas que des puissances étrangères se battent à sa frontière. De plus, la Chine pourrait être tentée de profiter d'un conflit pour essayer d'annexer une partie de la Corée (c'est un longshot, je l'admet, mais je crois que la Chine à des visées expansionnistes).
    Au pays de Québec rien ne doit mourir et rien ne doit changer... (Louis HÉMON, Maria Chapdelaine)

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    Citation Envoyé par Cataclaw Voir le message
    Oh look, Kim is feeling ronrey again.

    China wants stability for the Korean peninsula. China wants to keep growing and an unstable Korean peninsula is a problem.

    If North Korea ever attacked and war broke out, even China would be against them. The reason is simple.. China + North Korea vs. Rest of the World is still an unfair fight, not to mention the entire West that buys China's products would stop doing so, severely hurting their economy.

    No. What everyone wants is stability. The only nutcase here is Kim Jong Il.
    The biggest problem is NK has a bazillion artillery pieces pointed at Seoul region where 25 M people live. At the drop of the hat millions of people could die Consequently Korea has stern words but never retaliates to NK, like after the Cheonan or every other provocation, going back decades (like the "tree incident" when they hacked a bunch of American soldiers to death). But every time the provocations get increasingly serious, and Korea's hands are tied because of the risk of escalation.
    Dernière modification par Cyrus ; 24/11/2010 à 00h14.
    So live this day that you can look every damn man straight in the eye and tell him to go to hell.

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    The best thing for North Korea would be for Kim to just die of natural causes... now. And be replaced by his slightly less insane son.

    Of course who knows.. maybe Kim's supporters would invent a story that he was assassinated as an excuse to push the big red button on those artillery aimed at Seoul.

    One thing's for sure, if NK ever destroys Seoul, it would be unprecedented destruction. The whole world would swarm in and beat the crap out of NK in a second's notice.
    Dernière modification par Cataclaw ; 24/11/2010 à 00h33.

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    Lorsque j'étais en Chine en mai, nous avons visité une partie de la grande muraille qui se situe à un point stratégique au nord-est de la Chine. La muraille est installée à travers une chaine de montagne qui est une barrière naturelle entre la Chine et le nord-est du reste de l'Asie.

    Sur place et en voiture, nous avons été surpris du nombre de char-d'assaut chinois dans la région. Nous avons demandé à notre guide pourquoi tant de chars ?
    ''To protect us against the ennemy'' a été sa réponse.
    Nous : "China has ennemies ?"
    Lui : "Yes, North Korea''

    La Chine ne prendra jamais le bord de la Corée du Nord si il y a une guerre un jour. Au contraire, la Chine trouvera tout les prétextes possibles pour conquérir la Corée du Nord. Oui, la Chine est très avare de territoires.

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    China is not at all interested in having North Korea territory. What they fear is thousands if not millions of starving North Koreans entering China. Mexicans entering the US is small beer compared to what China fears from starving North Koreans. That is also why they fear a collapsing regime in North Korea. They also do not want US battleships and carriers so close to their shores. What the Chinese want is stability at their border. A secure North Korea with food, and excellent trade with South Korea. In other words, they like the status quo, and will seek a return of stability, even fragile and unstable, between the two Koreas.

    There will be no war. It is in the interest of nobody, including North Korea.

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